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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

The Fateful Triangle: Russia, Ukraine and the Jews

I am deeply grateful to Israel Shamir for submitting this most interesting article about a very complex topic which he knows extremely well.  One more thing: now this is a post in which obviously a discussion of Jews and their role in the Ukrainian crisis is highly appropriate and I therefore invite such comments as long as they are fact-based and logically presented.  Anti-Jewish rants or other racist nonsense will, as always, still be tossed into the trash bin.  The Saker

The Fateful Triangle: Russia, Ukraine and the Jews

By Israel Shamir

The erotic reliefs of Hindu temples with their gravity-defying and anatomy-challenging positions have found a new modern competitor in the Ukrainian crisis. Each party wants to get the Jews on their side, while claiming that the other side is anti-Jewish and a Jewish puppet at once. This impossible, Kama-Sutraesque position is the result of extremely confusing alliances: the Kiev regime lists devout Jews and fiery antisemites among its mainstays. The leading figures of the regime (including the president-elect) are of Jewish origin; strongman and chief financier Mr. Igor (Benya) Kolomoysky is a prominent Jewish public figure, the builder of many synagogues and a supporter of Israel. The most derring-do and pro-active force of the regime, the ultra-nationalists of the Svoboda party and the Right Sector, admire Hitler and his Ukrainian Quisling, Stepan Bandera, “liberators of Ukraine from the Judeo-Muscovite yoke”. Jews are ambivalent, and the sides are ambivalent about them, and a most entertaining intrigue has been hatched.

The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk. The Russians re-vitalised the World War Two narrative, fully identifying the Kiev regime with the Bandera gangs and the Nazi enemy. Still, this rhetoric is not taken seriously by Jews who refuse to feel threatened by cuddly Kolomoysky. “These Nazis are not against Jews, they are against Russians, so it is not a Jewish problem”, they say.

The Kiev regime mirrored the Russian attitude, if not Russia's tactics. Being rather short of facts to brandish, they faked a leaflet from Donetsk rebels to local Jews calling upon them to register and pay a special poll tax “for the Jews support the Kiev regime”. This rude and improbable hoax was immediately and convincingly disproved, but not before it was used by, no less, Barak Obama and John Kerry. The American Jewish newspaper of record, The Forward, obfuscated the issue by saying that Russians and Ukrainians are antisemites by birth and their denials are to be taken with a grain of salt. This mud-slinging was effective – the hoax has made the front pages, while its debunking was published on the back pages.

The Russians had the facts on their side, and the West knew that: the US refused entry to Oleg Tyagnibok and other Svoboda leaders (now members of Kiev government) because of their antisemitism as recently as in 2013. But Russian appeals to Jewish and American sensitivities failed to make an impact. They know when to feign indignation and when to hush. Pro-Hitler commemorations are frequent in Estonia, Latvia, Croatia, and cause no lifting of a censorious brow, for these countries are solidly anti-Russian. In March of this year, the Obama administration’s special envoy on anti-Semitism, Ira Forman, flatly denied everything and said to the Forward that Putin’s assertions of Svoboda’s antisemitism “were not credible”. The US wants to decide who is an antisemite and who is not; like Hermann Goering wanted to decide who is a Jew and who is not in the Luftwaffe. In the Ukrainian crisis, the Jews remain divided, and follow their countries’ preferences.

Israel is neutral

Recently Prime Minister Netanyahu called President Putin. Putin is always available for and always courteous to Netanyahu, as opposed to President Obama, who shows signs of irritation. (Admittedly Obama has to listen to Netanyahu much more often and for hours.) Netanyahu apologised that he wouldn’t be able to come to St Petersburg for Israeli Culture Week; instead, old reliable Shimon Peres, Israel's President, will make the trip. He apologised for leaking the news of this visit cancellation to the media, as well.

This is quite typical for the Israeli PM: at first, he asks for an invitation, Russia extends it, then he cancels his visit and leaks it to the press, thus earning brownie points with the Americans. He did it at the Sochi Olympic games, and now again, in St Petersburg. This is his way of expressing Israeli neutrality.

Israel is explicitly neutral in the Ukrainian crisis. Israelis walked out and did not vote on the UN GA Crimea resolution at all, annoying its American sponsors. The Israelis had a flimsy excuse: their Foreign Office was on strike. The Americans weren’t satisfied with this explanation. Strike or not, vote you must!

We learned from our Israeli colleagues the details of the Putin-Netanyahu phone conversation, which elaborated the reasons for Israeli neutrality. Israel is worried that as an asymmetric response to the US sanctions, Russia would deliver its potent air defence systems to Iran and Syria. Iran and Russia had signed a weapons supply contract a few years ago, Iran duly paid; then the shipment was suspended. Iran went to court demanding a massive compensation for the breach of contract. Likewise, the Syrians were supposed to get the S-300 surface-to-air missile system, able to protect its skies from Israeli raids. The deliveries commenced; PM Netanyahu beseeched Putin to put it on hold. Initially Putin objected, stressing the defensive nature of the system. Netanyahu told the Russian president that the S-300 would allow the Syrians to cover the whole North of Israel, at least all the way to Haifa, rendering important airfields unusable and endangering civil aviation as well. Putin agreed to stop the deliveries.

Vladimir Putin is friendly to Israel. He promised he would not allow the destruction of Israel; he promised to save its population if the situation should become truly dangerous. During the recent visit of PM Netanyahu to Moscow, Putin was not carried away by Netanyahu and Liberman’s hints of possible Israeli re-alliance with Moscow instead of Washington. He told the Israelis that their ties with the US are too strong for such a re-alliance being conceivable. Putin said that Russia is satisfied with the present level of friendship and does not demand that Tel Aviv weaken its ties with Washington. Putin visited Israel a few times, he received the Israeli PM in Kremlin. The Israeli ambassador Mme Golender sees Putin more often than do her American or French counterparts.

This friendly attitude has a down-to-earth reason: Putin is not fluent in English or French, while Mme Ambassador speaks Russian to him, eliminating the bothersome need of an interpreter. A deeper reason is Putin’s background: a scion of liberal elites, brought up in St Petersburg, schooled by ultra-liberal Mayor Sobchack, anointed by Boris Yeltsin, Putin is naturally friendly to Jews and to Israel. This friendly attitude annoyed some Russian ultra-patriots, who excitedly circulated his photo taken in the obligatory kippah near the Wailing Wall. They also counted and recounted the names of Jewish oligarchs in Moscow.

True, some of them – Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Hodorkovsky - had to flee their Russian homeland, but the Russian president is surely not the Jewish-tycoons-Nemesis and the-new-Hitler he is sometimes made out to be. Abramovich and Friedman, to name just two, retain his trust and access. Putin does not mind any oligarch (Jewish or Gentile) – as long as he stays out of politics.

Putin is also friendly with Jewish intellectuals and gentlemen-of-the-media, even if they are outright hostile to him. Masha Gessen, Jewish Lesbian Putin-hater and magazine editor; Alexey Venediktov, Jewish chief editor of Echo Moskvy, a popular liberal medium that attacks Putin every day; many others enjoy access to Putin, - while no Russian nationalist including Dr Alexander Dugin can boast of having met with the president privately.

Putin’s affability does not turn him into a bountiful source for every Jewish initiative. He stopped S-300 deliveries to Iran, but rejected all Israeli overtures asking him to ditch Iran, or Syria, or Hamas. In the course of their last phone conversation, Netanyahu claimed the Israelis discovered proofs of Iranian nukes. Putin politely expressed his doubts and re-addressed him to IAEA. He agreed to receive the Israeli “experts” with their proofs in Moscow, but nothing came of it. Russia’s support for Palestine is unwavering, – there is a Palestinian embassy in Moscow, too.

Putin supported building of a spacious Jewish museum in Moscow and personally contributed to its budget – but Russian street advertising proclaims the Resurrection of Christ, Eastertide, and His Nativity at Christmas. No “season's greetings”, but open affirmation of Christianity. Russia is not like the US or EU, where external signs of Christian faith are forbidden, Easter and Christmas can’t be mentioned and whatever Jews request must be done immediately. Western Jews are annoyed (so their organisations claim) by public displays of Christian faith, but Russian Jews do not mind; moreover, they intermarry, convert and enter the Church in previously unheard of numbers. They are not strongly pro-Israeli, those that were already left for Israel.

So the Jews of Russia are not an influential factor to the Russian President. Putin will do what is right according to the Christian faith, and what is good for Russia, as he understands it -- and he can’t be convinced to give up really important points. Other considerations – such as friendship with Israel – would normally take a much lower place in his priorities. However, in the midst of the Ukrainian crisis, as the Russians are worried by sanctions and by threats of isolation, they try to pull Jews to their side. This makes them increasingly susceptible to Israeli manipulation, whether state-authorised or a private venture.

Last week, Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld visited Moscow. In 2003, he famously threatened Europe with nuclear destruction (the “Samson Option”), saying “Israel has the capability to take the world down with us, and that will happen before Israel goes under”. Now he has explained to Russians Israel’s new policy: While the US enters the period of its decline, Israel must diversify and hedge its bets by drawing close to Moscow, Beijing and Delhi, he wrote in Izvestia daily. Perhaps, but without going too far. A flirt – yes, switching sides – not yet.

Israel prefers to stick to its neutrality. This is easy, as the Israeli populace (excepting its Russians) is not interested in Russian/Ukrainian affairs, does not know the difference between Russia and the Ukraine and is rather unfriendly to Russians/Ukrainians. This goes for both the Left and Right; the Israeli Left is even more pro-American than the Israeli Right. As for Russian Israelis, they are equally divided between supporters of Russia and supporters of Kiev regime. While observing niceties towards Russia, Israel does not intend to side with Moscow. The Jewish oligarchs of Ukraine – Kolomoysky, Pinchuk, Rabinovich – are integrated within the Kiev regime, and they support Israeli right-wing on a large scale. Israeli businessmen are invested in the Ukraine, and the oligarchs are invested in Israel. Kolomoysky controls YuzhMash, the famed missile construction complex in Dnepropetrovsk, and holds the secrets of the Satan ballistic missile, the most powerful Russian strategic weapon. He allegedly intends to share these secrets with the Israelis. If Israel were to side with Moscow regarding Ukraine, the breach with Washington would be unavoidable, and Israel does not intend to provoke it.

Some marginal Israeli right-wingers support Russia; they claim that they represent Israeli public opinion and government. They try to collect on their promises before they deliver. However, this is not an ordinary scam: they are trying to turn Russia into a supporter of right-wing Zionism.

Consider Russian-Israeli far right activist Avigdor Eskin. He impossibly claims that the Israeli government has already decided to jump from the US train to join the Russian one, that Israeli commandos are on their way to fight for the Russians in Donetsk, that Israeli authorities intend to strip Mr Kolomoysky of his Israeli citizenship. Naturally, all that is a load of bunkum, but Russians swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Avigdor Eskin is a colourful personality: a convert to Jewish faith (his mother is not Jewish), an observant Jew, an ex-Kahanist who was arrested in Israel for an alleged attempt to desecrate Al Aqsa mosque and a Muslim cemetery, and who served two or three years in Israeli jail; he styles himself a “Rabbi” and wears a full beard. After serving his time in jail, he moved to Russia and built a network of Israel supporters among the Russian far right. His message is “Israel is a true friend of Russia, while Muslims are Russia’s enemies”. He also adds that Israeli settlers are anti-American and pro-Russian. (If you believe that, the tooth fairy is the next step.)

Recently he claimed that the Aliya Battalion of “experienced Israeli commandos and sharpshooters” came to warring Donbass to fight on the Russian side against the Kiev regime troops. The Aliya Battalion is a battalion in the sense Salvation Army is an army. This is an Israeli NGO, established by Russian Israelis of far-right Zionist persuasion and of some Russian military background. It is not a part of Israeli Army. For a short while, the NGO provided guards for Jewish settlements in Gaza and the West Bank, but the settlements stopped using them as they were extremely unreliable. They boasted of murdering Palestinian civilians, of torturing and killing children, but this was just a sick sadist and racist fantasy, people say. Afterwards, the Battalion leaders turned its name into a profitable scam, roaming American Jewish communities and collecting donations for their supposedly secret activities. As this scam was exposed by Israeli TV (RTVI network; it is available on the YouTube), they had disappeared from the public eye. Now Avigdor Eskin resurrected the old scam, and made a lot of headlines in the Russian media.

Eskin found a soulmate in prominent Russian media man Vladimir Solovyev. The Solovyev is of partly Jewish origin, lived abroad, then returned to Russia; he runs an important political show Sunday Evening on Russian TV. The Saker (a well-known blogger) described him as follows: “This show is hosted by a famous personality, Vladimir Solovyev, who is a very interesting guy. Solovyev is a Jew, and he is not shy about reminding his audience about it, who was even elected as a member of the Russian Jewish Congress. He is also a Russian patriot, and he is an outspoken supporter of Putin and his policies. His position on the Ukraine is simple: he as a Jew and as a Russian has zero tolerance for Ukrainian nationalism, neo-Nazism or Banderism. He is a determined and total enemy of the new Kiev regime.”

It is possible Solovyev is going through some personal identity crisis: from celebrating his Russian roots, he moved to proclaiming his Jewish origin. Alternatively, it is possible (and more likely) that the Russian decision-makers want to pull Jews on their side, and Solovyev is acting with US Jews in mind. Stalin did it, so Putin could repeat the trick. In 1942, as Nazi onslaught threatened Russia, Stalin had sent some Russian Jews to the US, to speak Yiddish to Jewish communities and lobby for the USSR. The American Jewish community surely carries some clout… Now Solovyev and others are trying to influence Jews abroad; or at least to show to their superiors they are trying.

The price Eskin extracts for his fantasy stories is high. In Solovyev’s prime time programme, he called for the destruction of al Aqsa mosque and for the building of the Jewish temple on its place. He called Palestinians “the people of Antichrist”. Even in Israel such statements can’t be voiced on public TV. In confused Moscow, Eskin was feted and given a place in another important political programme, that of Arcady Mamontov. Who is conning whom: is Eskin conning his Russian hosts, or are his media hosts using him to con their superiors, or are their superiors trying to con the Russian people? Or is Israel hedging its bets? Who knows?

Ukrainian Jews beg to differ

Jews came to the Ukraine a thousand years ago, perhaps from Khazaria. This is not a homogeneous community; rather, they represent several communities. A lot of them emigrated to Israel; even more moved to Russia. They speak Russian and usually do not speak Ukrainian, though they picked up the vernacular over last twenty years. Normally, they wouldn’t care about Ukraine’s independence, as Jews traditionally side with the strong, be it Poles under Polish rule, with Russians under Moscow rule, or with Germans under Vienna or Berlin. Now many of them have decided to side with the US or EU. One of the reasons why so many people of Jewish origin do well is that the ruling ethnic groups trust the Jews and rely upon their loyalty to the powerful and lack of compassion for their Gentile neighbours.

Another reason is the vague definitions. For last three or four generations, Jews have intermarried freely; children of these mixed marriages are often considered ‘Jews’. These are the ‘Jews’ to the present regime; often they have only one Jewish grandparent.

Ukraine, following its independence in 1991, moved into the Western sphere of influence, but Eastern Ukraine (Novorossia) retained its Russian character and links. Jews did well in both parts. Mr Kolomoysky is a prominent member of the Jewish community, and a mainstay of the Kiev regime. He is a ruthless businessman, famous for his raiding of others’properties and for his Mafia connections. Rumours connect him with many killings of business adversaries.

On the other side, in Kharkov, the Mayor and the district Governor (nicknamed Dopah and Gepah) are Jewish, and they can be considered pro-Russian. It was thought that Kharkov would become the centre of rising Novorossia; president Yanukovich fled to Kharkov hoping to find allies and supporters. But Dopa and Gepa disabused him, so he continued his flight all the way to the Russian city of Rostov. Their decision to remain loyal to Kiev did not work well for them: one was shot, and the second one has been imprisoned and his attempt to run for president thwarted.

Kharkov is also home to Mr. Hodos, a wealthy and prominent Jew who fought most valiantly against Habad, the Jewish spiritual movement of which Mr Kolomoysky is a prominent member. The Jews of Novorossia apparently support the general pro-Russian trend, though there are exceptions. Practically all Ukrainian Jews have relatives in Russia, and had Russian education.

Israel has a strong network of agents in the Ukraine. They snatched a Palestinian engineer and flew him to an Israeli dungeon, and that could not be done without support of Ukrainian security services. However, the stories of Israeli soldiers fighting in Ukraine are somewhat exaggerated: these are individuals of dual citizenship who act at their own will, not a state representatives.

US Jews are divided

US Jews are divided on the Ukraine, as they were divided on Palestine. Friends of Palestine, people with a strong anti-imperialist record and sound knowledge of East European history - Noam Chomsky and Stephen F. Cohen -- recognised and renounced the US attempt to sustain their hegemony by keeping brazen Russia down. A subset of people, Gilad Atzmon aptly called AZZ (anti-zionist zionists), Trots and other faux-Leftist shills for NATO like Louis Proyect – called for American intervention and brayed for Russian blood.

The notorious Israel Lobby is strictly anti-Russian. The State Dept. official Victoria (“Fuck EU”) Nuland personally directed the Kiev coup; she handpicked the government and the president of the new American colony on the Dnieper River. Her husband, Robert Kagan, is a founder of FPI, the successor of infamous PNAC, the extremist Zionist think tank which promoted wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and pushed for a war with Iran. Now they attack Russia, but they do not forget about their support for Israel.

Consider a young American gender activist and journalist, James Kirchick. He entered the Neocon network by shilling for the Lobby. He pink-washed Israel (“Israel as the best friend of gays on earth, while the Palestinians are homophobes who deserve to be bombed”). After doing the Israeli stint, he moved on to fighting Russia. He worked for the CIA-owned and US Congress-funded Radio Free Europe; stage-managed the sensational Liz Wahl’s on-air resignation from the RT and protested alleged mistreatment of gays in Russia. His dirty tricks were revealed by Max Blumenthal, a Jewish American journalist, a known anti-Zionist (working together with a Palestinian Rania Khalek).

While Israel is neutral re Ukraine, Israeli friends in EU and US are hostile to Russia and supportive of American hegemony, while friends of Palestine stand for Russia’s challenge to the Empire. The French Zionist media philosopher Bernard Henri Levy is an example of the former, while Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research is a representative of the latter. Leading critical (“anti-Zionist”) websites Counterpunch, Antiwar, Global Research sympathise with Russia, while pro-Israeli sites are hostile to Russia.

Zionists are nasty and vicious enemies, but they make even worse friends. Edward N. Luttwak is friendly to Russia; he called upon the US to make up with Russia. Strategic union of Russia and America is necessary, he says. Who cares about Ukraine? And here is his pitch line: Russia should fight China for the US benefit. Another Zionist friend, Tony Blair, also calls for peace with Russia – so Russia can fight the Muslim world for Israel. Quite similar to Eskin who offers his pathetic support to Russia in order to neutralise her positive influence and defence of Palestine.

The bottom line: Israel remains neutral for its own reasons. While Jews as individuals differ on Ukraine, there is a correlation with their stand on Palestine and on Syria. Enemies of Putin in Russia, Ukraine, Europe and US do support Israel and are hostile to Palestine, to Syria of Bashar, to Venezuela of Chavez. And the most dangerous lot are those who support Israel and Russia, as they are surely plotting some mischief.

Language editing by Ken Freeland
Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

80 comments:

Mohamed said...

Israel Shamir is full bullshit and according to him, Putin is God.

S-300 were not delivered to Iran and Syria because, "Vladimir Putin is friendly to Israel. He promised he would not allow the destruction of Israel; he promised to save its population if the situation should become truly dangerous."

What a load, The Hasbara Israel Shamir?

Israel on a daily basis targets both the Syrians and Lebanese Air Space, because they don't have .....

Best regards,

Mohamed.

Anonymous said...

Load of BS ..

Anonymous said...

Visiting this site over the course of the last few months has helped me understand just how reactionary and futile attempts to oppose US and western European imperialism in Ukraine on the basis of Russian nationalism are.

Your anti-semitism -- which jumps off almost every page of what you write, in spite of your transparent claims to not be animated by anti-Jewish sentiment -- along with your evident nationalism and firm opposition to socialism mean that you have a tremendous amount in common with the fascist-heavy, imperialist-sponsored puppet regime in Kiev.

Yup, you heard me right; the only difference between you and the Right Sector elements is that they are Ukrainian nationalists and you are a Russian nationalist.

Your fasntastical claims that Putin will deliver some kind of rejoinder to the western imperialist powers is bound up with the overwhelming limitations of your truly reactionary bourgeois nationalist worldview.

Putin is obviously on reaching a compromise with the western powers that will be in their favor and which, he hopes, will result in them giving him and his regime a bit of breathing space against their regime change and destabilization campaigns within Russia itself. Putin sees the hatred of the working people in east Ukraine for the IMF austerity measure-implementing and Ukrainian chauvinism-promoting regime in Kiev as being a threat to his own power; after all, his power in Russia is, just like is the case in Ukraine, based on a narrow layer of extremely wealthy oligarchs who plundered what was the Soviet Union's formerly state-owned property. He does not want the impoverished masses in east Ukraine rise up largely in opposition to the austerity regime of the Ukrainian government precisely because he fears that such a popular movement from below could also spread to Russia itself.

Anonymous said...

"What Really Happens In Palestine..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z5aYqy8hUQ#t=102

And good to see Eric Cantor’s been given the boot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/10/no-one-saw-eric-cantors-primary-loss-coming-in-an-endless-number-of-shocked-tweets/

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@EVERYBODY:

Okay, already 2 out of 3 posts are clearly trolls and I expect more in the course of the day. I have a request for the rest of you: please don't bother arguing with them. Let's have an intelligent conversation and let's not allow them to sidetrack us into name calling or refuting stupid accusations. They do their thing, we do ours, and everybody goes home happy, ok?

Kind regards,

The Saker

Anonymous said...

This can't be discussed on the given basis, being that it's only a partial representation to begin with.

You need to separately talk about Jews, and the Zionist/Kabalist/Freemason white sect that hides behind the Jews and abuses them as a cover. Or as even Jesus said, "I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

Or just listen to Mr. Sterling talking about white and black jews, straight from the horse's mouth.

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@Mohamed:Israel Shamir is full bullshit and according to him, Putin is God.

You should be ashamed of such a stupid comment which only shows your lack of understanding and solid arguments.

The Saker

Anonymous said...

http://vognebroda.net/v-sluchae-pobedy-kieva-vse-zhiteli-donbassa-budut-pomeshcheny-v-filtratsionnye-lagerya



In case of victory Kiev, all residents of Donbass will be placed in the filtration camps

Snow Bulletin The Junta

11.06.2014 15:53, Kiev


The Acting Minister of defence of Ukraine Mykhaylo Koval stated that the inhabitants of the Southeast will be applied «special filtration measures ", in which people will settle in different regions. This statement has been made at the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on Wednesday, June 11.The Minister stressed that the filtration camps are all adult residents of the rebel regions, including women. It will identify those associated with the separatists and who committed crimes on the territory of Ukraine.Filtration camps are essentially the same, familiar to us since the second world war, concentration camps, where prisoners were subjected to checks on residents will be reliability. About the degree of bias on these tests and how they will be is anyone's guess.

Anonymous said...

Visiting this site over the course of the last few months has helped me understand just how reactionary and futile attempts to oppose US and western European imperialism in Ukraine on the basis of Russian nationalism are.

Your anti-semitism -- which jumps off almost every page of what you write, in spite of your transparent claims to not be animated by anti-Jewish sentiment -- along with your evident nationalism and firm opposition to socialism mean that you have a tremendous amount in common with the fascist-heavy, imperialist-sponsored puppet regime in Kiev.

Yup, you heard me right; the only difference between you and the Right Sector elements is that they are Ukrainian nationalists and you are a Russian nationalist.

Your fantastical claim that Putin will deliver some kind of rejoinder to the western imperialist powers is bound up with the overwhelming limitations of your truly reactionary bourgeois nationalist worldview.

Putin is obviously intent on reaching a compromise with the western powers that will be in their favor and which, he hopes, will result in them giving him and his regime a bit of breathing space against their regime change and destabilization campaigns within Russia itself. Putin sees the hatred of the working people in east Ukraine for the IMF austerity measure-implementing and Ukrainian chauvinism-promoting regime in Kiev as being a threat to his own power; after all, his power in Russia is, just like is the case in Ukraine, based on a narrow layer of extremely wealthy oligarchs who plundered what was the Soviet Union's formerly state-owned property. He does not want the impoverished masses in east Ukraine rise up largely in opposition to the austerity regime of the Ukrainian government precisely because he fears that such a popular movement from below could also spread to Russia itself.

Anonymous said...

I won't comment on the Saker's constant obsession of American-Zionists, except to works against him more than anything he says.

Despite this I value this website for the information it contains.

Instead I'll just say the typical logic of my people on Russia, Ukraine, and anti-semitism.

Culturally (if not in the speech of the more successful leaders), both Russia and Ukraine tolerate much more casual anti-semitism, and in general a spectrum of opinion ranging from non-politically-correct, to outright racist, than do the "leading" western states.

Incidentally, this way of thinking has polluted Israel after decades of Russian-Jewish immigration- Russian Israelis I think tend to be more racist against OTHER groups, such as Arabs etc.

To be fair, there are also extended parts of the US where you could find some truly hateful human beings, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the whole nation was strongly encouraged by TV to adopt anti-Arab racism, which worked for a while, but I don't think it permanently took hold.

Nevertheless the US, despite being aggressively imperialist, has made HUGE improvements in being racially end ethnically tolerant. I don't live in Russia, so I can't say if there is a similar improvement there- would be curious to hear responses.

But regardless, I am pretty sure the STEREOTYPE among Jews, with much historical justification, is that Russians and Ukranians tend to be very racist in general, and historically, anti-semitic.

Whereas Germans, for example, have made a point of showing that they have reformed.

Thus the logic for Ukraine and Russia, of "Let them fight and destroy each other".

I am just observing. I, for my own personal reasons, just want to avoid fascism and militant racism of all kinds.

It would be nice if the SAKER made an effort to help and perhaps set an example by giving up one or two of his favorite adjectives -- small sacrifice.

Anonymous said...

My idea is simple --

The key features of the imperialist puppet regime in Kiev are that

1.) it is pro-capitalist ... and ...
2.) it promotes Ukrainian chauvinism and is full of vicious fascists (some of whom are anti-semites) and that attempts to oppose it on the basis of

1.) pro-capitalist politics ..and ...
2.) Russian nationalism (including anti-semitism) and Putin worship ...
are exercises in futility.

Oh yeah, "Israel Shamir" is a vicious anti-semite who the notorious lifelong neo-Nazi David Duke is a big supporter of. That tells you a lot about his ultra-reactionary politics.

Anonymous said...

My idea is simple --

The key features of the imperialist puppet regime in Kiev are that

1.) it is pro-capitalist ... and ...
2.) it promotes Ukrainian chauvinism and is full of vicious fascists (some of whom are anti-semites) and that attempts to oppose it on the basis of

1.) pro-capitalist politics ..and ...
2.) Russian nationalism (including anti-semitism) and Putin worship ...
are exercises in futility.

Oh yeah, "Israel Shamir" is a vicious anti-semite who the notorious lifelong neo-Nazi David Duke is a big supporter of. That tells you a lot about his ultra-reactionary politics.

Anonymous said...

Personal attacks on a commenter should be banned. Comments should be on contents and not on person.

I think there should be a way for readers to vote on kicking some comments out.

Vulgarity and name calling should trigger an immediate ban of the comment.

Is there a wordpress plugin to do that ?

sweetwater said...

"Kolomoysky controls YuzhMash, the famed missile construction complex in Dnepropetrovsk, and holds the secrets of the Satan ballistic missile, the most powerful Russian strategic weapon."

It' a bullshit, and it's time to end this ridicolous story. Kolomoysky has oly the factory, but the secrets of Satan are safe in Russia, otherwise the USA would have already built it
twenty years ago.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the apparent confusion of Jewish identity in the area of Ukraine could be explained with a closer look at the Khazar Empire. Arthur Koestler in his book, The Thirteenth Tribe, made the case that Khazars were Aryan Turkic tribes that converted to Judaism in 740 AD. At time they occupied a region that extended from north of the Caspian Sea to Kiev. Koestler then said the Khazars were almost entirely wiped out by Genghis Khan. The remaining Khazars migrated to Poland and became the cradle of the Ashkenazim Jews.
Identity confusion would seem to be an inevitable consequence. But it might also provide a constructive way forward.

Roberto S. Chiandotti said...

Very well thought out. The Jewish question can not be neglected because the fact of the "junta" have sounded a gossip through the UN Security Council was not only folkloric but too serious to be overlooked.

Anonymous said...

yes, a "fatalful triangle" for BOTH ukraina AND russia :-(

Mohamed said...

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

"You should be ashamed of such a stupid comment which only shows your lack of understanding and solid arguments."

Dearest Saker,

I have utmost respect and regards for Mr. Putin. To me he is doing his best under the terrible circumstances, and I don't ask more from him.

He is the President of Russia, and sworn oath to do utmost for Mother Russia. This is his first priority, not Syria, Iran or any Timbuktu.

God to bless him, his entire cabinet and his family.

As far as Evil in concerned, I take refugee against Evil in God only and no one else.

Allahu Akbar : God is Greater.


Best regards my friend and have a nice vacation,

Mohamed.

Larchmonter445 said...

The article appears to be full of facts. Since we are seeking facts to make our own judgement of why some Jews side with neo-nazis in this conflict, the article is helpful.

It gives us opportunity to further research.

It gives us (minus the trolls) the opportunity to hear from others more analysis, additional facts or refutations.

Saker, this is an excellent resource and starting point backgrounder.

Just as we get brave Juan's SitReps, more of these analyst SitReps are very useful and welcome.

I thank you for posting this to bring some illumination to the explosive issue of "Jews", "Zionists" vis a vis Putin, Russia and Ukraine.

Anonymous said...

quote "The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk."
that exactly shows how naive Putin is and how rubbish his foreing misntry and secret service is.
the anglozionists have been the main enemy of russia and putin and lavrov plead with them! are they out of their mind? is this the caliber of russian leadership.? if so then russia is doomed from its own folly when it does nto know how the real enemy is.

Anonymous said...

quote "The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk."
that exactly shows how naive Putin is and how rubbish his foreing misntry and secret service is.
the anglozionists have been the main enemy of russia and putin and lavrov plead with them! are they out of their mind? is this the caliber of russian leadership.? if so then russia is doomed from its own folly when it does nto know how the real enemy is.

Anonymous said...

quote "The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk."
that exactly shows how naive Putin is and how rubbish his foreing misntry and secret service is.
the anglozionists have been the main enemy of russia and putin and lavrov plead with them! are they out of their mind? is this the caliber of russian leadership.? if so then russia is doomed from its own folly when it does nto know how the real enemy is.

Anonymous said...

jews have been part of english pirate looting.
the modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit instruction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch jews were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 400 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990(now kuwait soverenign fund is nto in kuwait but in londoan and under british occuptation) -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English race through this money protection racket . it is money protection racket in the sense that those elite’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks from where it is not going to go out anywhere except in cayman islands like pirate islands.

Anonymous said...

All plots r done by the evil english race-read dumas interview-they pass the blame2 jews if turned unpopular.
England is head of the family. USA is just the loud mouthed son with a fancy car.
Even after french ex minster Dumas saying that english planned syrian terrorism years ago-rus talks?
england is running a WW3 agasint all non anglo nations ofociurse it needs american arms for that.

Gulf war plotted by witch thatcher, first iraq war by criminal tony blair-this syrian by english rat
only when wars become unpopular the english stoptaking credit for that nd let blame b placed on Jews
and stupid people including hitler blamed jews while it was all along the english parasites who loot.
england lives off protection money from the international criminals who get asylum in england 4 money.
biggest money laundering is done by the english race in london calling it service industry.

There is nothing these anglosaxon creatures enjoy more than hating others, either the poor and downtrodden, those of other races or religions.
anglophile kissinger promised british controlled gulf monarchies protection run by the british -usa.

World war one and two plotted and started by england.

Anonymous said...

If Israel belongs to Jews then North America belongs to the indigenous tribes.

Anonymous said...

Very insightful, poignant and rare overview of the Russia-Jews- Ukraine scheme! "The Secret History of Pussy Riot" by Israel Shamir was another great hit among my friends and family and I'd love to read a follow up on this, considering how much has happened since the publication of this article. Israel Shamir is one of the very few writers who is not afraid of touching the kind of subjects, nobody else would touch with a ten foot pole. THANK YOU!

Anonymous said...

jews ingratitute to the iranians.

Persian/Persia is a incorrect term, its a Greek given mispronounced word from 'Parthia' which was name of the Capital city of the 4th Iranian Empire which crushed Alexanders Army and was led by Pathians (as in Pashtuns/Afghani/Khorasanis). Later Romans kept using the term 'Persia' since Biblical times. Name of the land has always been AryaNam(Iran as the Rulers called it) as in Land of the Aryans(Nobels). Ancient Avesta texts, those in Elam (3200BC) aswell as Sumir & Indus suggest this. You see Persian is only an Major Iranic Ethnic Group, Other Major Iranic Ethnic Groups include Kurds, Pashtun, Azari, Armani, Baluchi,Tajik, Uzbek, Lur etc all share The same history, heritage, ancestry & bloodline. These lands were broken away recently by Russian & British wars on Iran. The israeli "european non Semitic Jews" should know, it was King of Kings Cyrus the Great of Iran, (Who Alexander saw as an Mentor) Cyrus freed their Possible ancestors the real Jews from Babylon! What a greatful Yahudis!

Anonymous said...

Who are the stockholders of this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the owners of the Federal Reserve:

Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York

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This dog berezaoskey died- It serves him right to die like a dog, because all these thugs became billionaires during the Gorbatchev, and Yeltsin era, who put Russia's public assets on the auction blockand brought looted money to thieving English in London.. this period of immense tragedy for the Russian people, who were assaulted simultaneously, by the US State Department, the USAID, the NED, the NDI, the IRI, the debt propagation institutions IMF, /World Bank, thousands of NGO trojan horses, and criminal George Soros Open Society Foundation, "system Administrators", and the indigenous criminals, mob, and thives, and while the Russian people were litterally starving in the 90's, Russian gangsters were buying public assets worth $ billions for pennies on the dollar, and sending billion of looted dollars to offshore bank accounts, while at the same time were negotiating the sellout of Russian assets to American interests (Bush) see for example the other big Kleptokrat Khodorkovsky: http://www.voltairenet.org/The...,

and British interests. Real dogs who should have been hanged while still in Russia

Anonymous said...

britain is the number one parasite nation of this world and is the main eviul brain behind american offensive (perpetual war) everywhere in the world. Why? Because only through american military might can a fourth rate country like england hope to have some influnce in the world.
and the rest of the world is resopibnsible for this-why has aljarreza engagesd the british journalists like frost in the english version?lokk how much propaganda english eversion al zareeja is making agasint irana nd zimbawe -in otherworlds doing the bidding for british media and british govermnet lies.
it is high time that thr british are removed forcibly or killed from evrywhere outside britian or may be even inside if they are not goign to stop destrying other nations.
britian must be deafeated militarily-not a great diffciluty with a coward nation-and must be eliminated as serious challnege to humanity

Anonymous said...

from--- Racism, Wealth and IQ
The Heart of Whiteness

By MANUEL GARCIA, Jr. in http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia04212007.html of 22nd april,2007.

"Since the days of Columbus, Pan-Whiteness has used technology (primarily explosives) and piracy (now called finance) to steal world resources, and enslave and exterminate "colored" people. "High" I.Q. is merely a developmental indicator of race-based physical plundering by their elders and ancestors in the children of the Race Warriors of the White Supremacy Crusade.

The religious core of capitalism is white supremacy, which is why the nations mentioned are bonded so tightly, and why the U.S. Government will often pursue policies vis-a-vis Israel that logically seem to be at odds with "U.S. interests" (e.g., the pursuit, with U.S. casualties, of war with Iraq and Iran, not just for oil but in Israel's interest). It may be objectively true that a particular policy (e.g., bankrolling Israel's theft of Palestine -- "settlements" -- backing Israel's stonewalling and aggression (e.g., Lebanon) and blocking U.N. and international efforts to settle the Palestinian issue) seems more to Israel's benefit than to "us." But, when viewed through the emotive religious-mythical lens of white supremacy, the apparent inconsistency dissolves.

"We" are defending our brother and sister "white" settlers in "Injun country." Israel, like our military bases and corporate installations around the world, is one of our many Fort Apaches in wild territory, filled with "colored" natives hostile to our manifest destiny to clear them off and "develop" the land. At best, they could work as sub-human machines in our agricultural and mechanized plantations, while being slowly ground down to dust and thence to disappearance behind "Separation Walls" (which actually encircle isolated populations, and so are corrals with machine gun towers -- slow motion Buchenwalds), and Border Fences and Free Trade Agreements.

The core basis of U.S. Government and capitalist policy is the protection of White Supremacy Nationalism and White Supremacy Super-Nationalism, or Empire. This is what we are fighting for. "We", the United States, are the 7th Cavalry, the Crusaders riding to the rescue of Pan-Whiteness around the world. The nature of your life and the degree of your prosperity is determined by the degree of your complicity in this cult. People like Bush and Rove and Cheney, Olmert, Sharon, the Israeli Zionist militarists, and, yes, Hitler was and are not simply motivated by elementary greed, because theft is an act of convenience, a short-cut, a matter of avoiding work. These zealots are tireless, working furiously even to the point of death, because they are motivated by a greed of religiously-inspired magnitude, and this is the compelling vision -- the cult -- of white supremacy."
and by "colored" commentators(like manmohan singhs,kamal naths, chadambaran and most of toilet peper of india ilk like premshamker jha and vir sanghvi like treacherous dogs!) singing the praises of their "white" overlords, the overlord ideology and the naturally ordained baseness of their own genetic pools. I, personally, know the costs in career and "earnings potential" that can result from a rejection of work "assignments" ("opportunities") in furtherance of the fundamental cause (the "Prime Directive," if you will). Fortunately for me, self respect is only expensive financially, in every other way it is most bountiful.

It is possible that an expanding awareness of self respect -- even a popular trans-national solidarity based on compassion (Fidel?, Chavez?, Mandela?) -- may ultimately topple the mighty military and financial powers of the White Supremacy Tribe. Until then, we will have to consider civilization an idea as yet unrealized.

Anonymous said...

In the immortal words of New York Times columnist, Thomas Friedman in his 1999 book The Lexus and the Olive Tree: “McDonald’s cannot flourish [in the Middle East or anywhere else presumably] without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the U.S. Air Force F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies to flourish is called the U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.”

In the immortal words of Clinton’s Albright on another occasion: “What’s the point of having a superb military…if we can’t use it?”

In the immortal words of former President George H. W. Bush: “What we say goes.”


Anonymous said...

October 2012.
Russia's problem is that it is still trying to find itself. It knows the Yeltsin years were a disaster, but it is not yet willing to find anything positive in the Soviet years, so it is like somebody without a history, somebody born yesterday. It still believes in the promises of "The West". It still doubts and fears itself. It has become impaled by the fence that it is trying to sit on.

Iran does not have this problem. Iran knows that it needs to survive.

Necessity is the best teacher. Necessity has taught Iran to distance itself from the fanaticism of the 1979 revolution. Iran has so much distanced itself that it is now committed to supporting a secularist government, in Syria!

The country that SHOULD be committed to Syria is Russia -- because of the affinity with Syrian Christians and Syrian secularists and because of the need to stop Saudi Islamists and Zionist encroachment and because of the military base and investment and because of humanitarian concerns and Russian credibility. But Russia seems like it is still asleep.

Anonymous said...

april 2006

iran and russia.

If russia follishly stop busher plant work or does not support iran a=verses the west then russia will be doomed as well because then resurgent west ,which has ben ploting against russia too,will have ecicircled and weakned russia.and russia will have no friend to look to when it is under pressure from the west.
thertefore russia must support all the countries who have stod fagainst angloamerican evil -only by this method russia and other countries can maintain their indepdence.

Anonymous said...

The main strategy of the anglos ( I say English and anglosfor they are unquestionably and clearly the cause of every conflict in the Middle East and everywhere else in the world, with an exception of an insignificant minority) is exploitation of the Sunni Islamists' ignorance and raw force to be directed at Russia. China hasn't been a problem for the anglos ever since they managed to turn China against the Soviet Union during seventies (Kissinger) and established trade relation with the same during the nineties (Kissinger and Alexander Haig). China's economy is firmly in the claws of the anglos.. Russia is in a very precarious situation due to being a major, if not the only, obstacle to the Jewish quest for a total world domination and enslavement. Russia has never had a more treacherous and hate driven enemy than the Khazar "Jews"and anglos stooges - not in its last thousand years history. If there is to be a WWlll, for which the Jews are pushing ever so hard, I hope that the good people of Russia want forget who their No1 enemy is and, I'm sure, many others will know who started the War.

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Britain’s “Bomber” Harris, who led the RAF Bomber Command during its mass raids on Germany in the Second World War, cut his teeth devastating Kurdish villages in Iraq in the 1920s.
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The evil scheming pirate English been troublemakers from the beginning, and they'll be troublemakers in the future. You can't alter their genetic makeup. They love to get nations to quarrel with each other, and to instigate war(s).

Anonymous said...

==============================“If it was not for Russian people you Jews would all be fancy lampshades in comfortable German homes. It was the Red Army who destroyed the fascists by breaking their might at Kursk and Stalingrad. You'll notice it was not you wannabe Jews more like Euro trash who crushed the fascist machine whom your banks built. Neither was it Montgomery with his fancy shorty shorts who needed the entire Anglo empire to beat one little German general Rommel in North Africa. Neither was it the psychotic Patton with his pervert pearl pistols pretending that he was some kind of Caesar....Americans are great at winning wars in Hollywood movies, legends in their own minds attacking the poor countries, but in reality name one which they have won, with the exception of their Civil War.”

Anonymous said...

==============================“If it was not for Russian people you Jews would all be fancy lampshades in comfortable German homes. It was the Red Army who destroyed the fascists by breaking their might at Kursk and Stalingrad. You'll notice it was not you wannabe Jews more like Euro trash who crushed the fascist machine whom your banks built. Neither was it Montgomery with his fancy shorty shorts who needed the entire Anglo empire to beat one little German general Rommel in North Africa. Neither was it the psychotic Patton with his pervert pearl pistols pretending that he was some kind of Caesar....Americans are great at winning wars in Hollywood movies, legends in their own minds attacking the poor countries, but in reality name one which they have won, with the exception of their Civil War.”

Anonymous said...

Some oligarch Jews (like thee criminal U.K.-based fugitive oligarch Boris Berezovsky)
were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 4 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990 -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English .race through this money protection racket . It is money protection racket in the sense that those eliete’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks. The witness, who appeared on the Rossiya channel with his face hidden and was referred to as Pyotr, accused 61-year-old Berezovsky of killing Alexander Litvinenko because the former security officer knew how the exiled tycoon had obtained political asylum in Britain in 2003. This thief boris berezosvky is a terrorist as well who calls for violet end to Putin-the president who is one of the most loved of his countrymen compared to any in the world.
As someone said “We live in a world where criminals are good guys and patriots are villains: where Berezovsky is a liberal "human rights" activist and Putin is a moral monster.” that putin who is one of the most popular leader of any in the world.
say even if Russia destroys usa then if Britain or rather england is allowed to exist then the english parasitic dog race will ,by very parasitic nature, will try to disrupt Russia or other countries' existence. therefore instead of attacking usa or poland it is best policy of Russia to neautralise and sort out england first.

Anonymous said...

Origin of the first world war-plotted by the English pirates against Russia and Germany.
“The kaiser was absolutely correct. The Secret Elite was prepared to use any nation as a cat’s-paw, and Russia became the victim of British trickery, manipulated into a different treaty that was designed not to protect her or the peace of Europe but to enable the Secret Elite to destroy Germany.”

“The Secret Elite did not accept that German economic and industrial success was a just reward for their investment in better education and new technology. Together with its burgeoning industry, and a brand-new merchant fleet that promised future colonial expansion , Germany was also beginning to invest in oil production in Romania and Galicia. This was even more alarming because the Secret Elite knew just how strategically important oil was for future industrial development and warfare. The German threat had to be removed, and war was the only means by which that could be achieved.
……”and he shared the Secret Elite philosophy for world dominance by the Anglo-Saxon race.”
…….”France and Russia were needed in a new capacity: as Britain’s friends and allies…..but were enacted for one single purpose: to throttle Germany.”
They clearly identified Germany as the enemy at the Empire’s gate and understood immediately that, on its own, Britain could not destroy her as a continental power.
THE ENTENTE CORDIALE WAS HAILED as proof positive of a new era of Anglo-French mutual understanding and friendship that would finally bury age-old antagonisms between the two. It did, but that was never its prime purpose. Pursuit of global dominance was at the core of every action taken by the Secret Elite, and the creation of alliances with France, followed some years later by Russia, were first and foremost arrangements of strategic necessity. Their large armies were required for the eventual destruction of Germany.


The huge armies of France and Russia were integral to the mammoth task of stopping Germany in its tracks. Put simply, the Secret Elite needed others to undertake much of their bloody business, for war against Germany would certainly be bloody.”
In addition to the new relationship that needed to be crafted with France and Russia, four prerequisites had to be met before Britain went to war with Germany. Each required dedicated and long-term planning.
Initially, Germany’s leaders were not overly concerned about the bitter anti-German rhetoric that followed the Boer War. Nor were they impressed by Britain’s overtures to France. They believed that a Westminster government would never sanction such an alliance. Germany’s basic mistake lay in a deep-rooted conviction that ‘Britain could never draw close to her traditional French enemy, and certainly not to her bitter Russian rival’. 18 Like everyone else, they held to the naive belief that parliamentary government was thriving in Britain, unaware of the growing power and influence being exerted behind the scenes. While the Germans were slow to understand what was happening, others were not. Count De Lalaing, the Belgian ambassador in London, clearly realised the dangers. On 7 February 1905, he wrote to the minister of foreign affairs in Brussels: The hostility of the English public towards the German nation is founded apparently in jealousy and fear: jealousy in view of Germany’s economic and commercial schemes; fear from the perception that the German fleet may perhaps one day become a competitor for naval supremacy … This state of mind is fomented by the English press, heedless of international complications … the spirit of jingoism runs its course unchecked among the people in England; and the newspapers are, bit by bit, poisoning public opinion. 19 How right he was, but what he did not appreciate was the extent to which ‘this state of mind’ was being orchestrated.

Docherty, Gerry; MacGregor, James (2013-07-04). Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War (Kindle Locations 1165-1177). Mainstream Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Jan Verheul said...

Thank you, mr Shamir.

I read two of your books: 'Galile Flowers' and 'Masters of Discourse' and found them both as enlightening as this essay.

Anonymous said...

" is this true?
"it is nevertheless enormously revealing. The Jews recruited peasant girls in Polish and Russian villages, usually under false pretenses, and transported them to brothels in Turkey, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East; to Vienna, Budapest, and other major cities in the Austro-Hungarian Empire; and as far away as New York, New Orleans, and Buenos Aires. This Jewish trade in Slavic women naturally caused a great deal of hatred against the Jews by the Slavs, and this hatred broke out in pogroms and other popular actions against the Jews over and over again.

One would believe from the works of Mr. Spielberg and other Jewish propagandists that the hatred the Slavs bore against the Jews was based only on religious bigotry and that the Jews were completely innocent and inoffensive. One fascinating fact which Bristow's book reveals is that the center of the Jewish trade in Polish girls was in a little town called Oswiecim. The German name for this town was Auschwitz."

Anonymous said...

(Background to Austerlitz- napoleaon had to move from French coast because he found out that enlgish had bribed(with money stolen from india and with loan from Rotschild a jewdespite the fact that the jews had been freed from ghettos by Naploean) for a confederation to attack frence while naploean was rightly preparing for attack on england in summer of 1805. The reason he had to do was because england had confiscated the French ships with out delaring war and thus disobeying the treaty of ameines which england signed in 1802 and which that bastard country had no intention of honouring –and in many other trewaty which england tore down when convenient and signed when weak.)Incidently russian’s kutscho did not want to join that unholy alliance.

Anonymous said...

the jews had been evicted first time ever in europe by the english in 1191AD by another war criminal so called richard the lion --.
ofocurse the jews knew that the english were responsibel for spread of anti jews feeling in the whole of europe starting from 1192 Ad when those starving masses of england spread to continet on way to crusade so that the ,u mpen propletariat of europe(which was england and still is) could help themselves with looting of other nations-they tried to loot constanipole a christian bastian.
but the jews needed someone for protection and as then it was then that england lives off-as it does now pn protecion racket-you bring stolen wealth to england and we will support and protect you from your law of your land."

Israel is the center of attraction not the center of action. that is what most call the british empire from 1650 AD to today. and what role israel plays is in fact distraction



very true -in fact so called jewsih lobby" power is a propaganda done by the english race to hide thier nefarious iterference in the american ploicy to uinflunce american domestic and foreing policy for the benefit of england.

Mohamed said...

Anonymous said...

"If Israel belongs to Jews then North America belongs to the indigenous tribes."

Excellent! Quote of the Century!


Best regards,

Mohamed.

Anonymous said...

"Today when we confront this scheme and the tools of this scheme, I want you to recall the Zionist movement - those who made "Israel" - this usurping entity. Who said that they were a group who wanted to come to Palestine? They were a group who wanted to have a state in any place in the world. Argentine was one of their choices. Uganda was another. I think that Yemen too was one of these choices as well as Palestine.
It was the English who brought the Zionist Movement to Palestine. It was international colonialism and world hegemony…call it whatever you want."

Anonymous said...

one of the most t suprising thing is the enemy between muslims and jews which did not exist for thousand of years untill the end of 19th century. in fact there was no reason to because jews were in high positions in muslims kingdoms and considered not very different.

If you closley see then you will discover that jews are what muslims would have been if the muslims had bene in less number.
muslims traiditon is that of a jew.
both do circumcision
both have sabath
both pray with heads covered and moving to and fr
both are fantatic and their gods are jealous.
both observe halal
both use the same artisan class that hte jews did.
to talk of christian judiaism is a fraud created in last 50 years-in fact the chrisitans and jews never got along. only the non chrisitan protestants english pirates for whom religion is stolen money did get along with jews that too lately.

Anonymous said...

one of the most t suprising thing is the enemy between muslims and jews which did not exist for thousand of years untill the end of 19th century. in fact there was no reason to because jews were in high positions in muslims kingdoms and considered not very different.

If you closley see then you will discover that jews are what muslims would have been if the muslims had bene in less number.
muslims traiditon is that of a jew.
both do circumcision
both have sabath
both pray with heads covered and moving to and fr
both are fantatic and their gods are jealous.
both observe halal
both use the same artisan class that hte jews did.
to talk of christian judiaism is a fraud created in last 50 years-in fact the chrisitans and jews never got along. only the non chrisitan protestants english pirates for whom religion is stolen money did get along with jews that too lately.

Anonymous said...

1999.

how england has used jews for the benefit of english race only and for deliberatily creating disruption in Europe.

England had threatened israel in 1948 during israeli war of indepdence that england would use atom bomb agaisnt israel unless israel stop ddrowning royal air foarce palnes and pilots who were helping Jordan against israel.
the same england was in upsroar in july 1981 when isrea;l attakced iraq's nuclear reactor-just check out theier papers of the time
the same ngland was leading charge agasint isreal in june 82 when isreal attacked palestinain terrorists inside lebanon-that was at t time when england was in illegal occupation for malvinas island.
that is short glimpse of how much england and anglosaxon race care about jews and israel.
look at editorails of the times, the newsweek during those crucial perios of june 82 and see how they(the TImes, the gaurdian, BBC, ITV) were suggesting that israel or atleast tel aviv should be bombed.-just chek the british papers and bbc clips from april 82 to august 82.Also check those british bastrds joutrnlism hist in the month of summer 1981 when iraqi nuclear planty was bombed by the isralis and the british were the first-along with iraq -to protest agasint the israeli action.

Anonymous said...

All of this backing and forthing about Jews – Ukrainian, Russian, Israeli –, and their alliances; let's think for a moment. For centuries Jews [Sephardic, Mizrahi], Muslims, Christians, and other, lived together not only peacefully but cooperated, creating the basis for what ultimately evolved into modern science, philosophy, agriculture …

The issue, today, isn't a lack of inter-faith religious understanding, but rather an increasingly hierarchical power structure and the emergence of billionaire geopolitical 'deciders', amongst whom there happen to be quite a number of members who adhere to Jewish tribal culture, primarily European and US American, largely of Khazar descent. Though, of course, there are plenty of Christians, Muslims and agnostics among the lot, as well.

Following is an article which, for me, constituted powerful 'ah, ha' moment. The global power structure as described by Ismael Hossein-Zadeh is THE problem. Are we not wasting energy by squabbling over what amount to side issues, such as opinions held by Russian and Israeli Jews, amongst so much other relative trivia?

We the people, worldwide, of all faiths and ethnicities, need to join together, use our imaginations, to undermine / turn around what has become a global wealth extraction mechanism which is hard-wired ultimately to destroy life on earth. The political turmoil surrounding the takeover of Ukraine is but a demonstration of the nature of the process. And the people at the tip-top of global power would like nothing better than that we continue to focus on details.

WW III: More Interclass Than International
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istina said...

NATO tries to whitewash fascists and to defame thier victims like in the 90s. The Israeli ambassador even met with Nazi leader Yarosh and agreed to work together to “prevent provocations.” Yarosh said that “non-Ukrainians” should be treated according to principles set forth by the late Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera.

During the NATO war against Yugoslavia Israel behaved differently and supported the anti-nazi resistance.
"Mossad was especially active and concluded a deal with the Bosnian Serbs at Pale involving a substantial supply of artillery shells and mortar bombs."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/22/warcrimes.comment

Then it was the PR firm Ruder Finn that "managed to move the Jewish opinion to our side." They were paid by Tudjman and Izetbegovic. Only a minority was not duped by this campaign.

"T h e N a z i R e v i v a l
[The Jewish Press, Friday, June 24, 1994, Page 11]
...
It is high time for the Jewish community in this country, and for Jews around the world to recognize that they have been sadly misinformed and led astray by those who accepted money to mislead the American people, and the Jews in particular.
...
If the Serbs are prepared to stand in the breach to defend civilization from a revival of fascism, they should be congratulated and not attacked."
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/places/germany/ftp.py?places/germany//magdeburg/adelson.001

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous 11 June, 2014 13:57

In all fairness, what is anti semitism?

As I skimmed the article, whether you agree with its points or not, one thing jumps off the page: the amount of wealthy powerful individuals who are in charge, be it Russia or Ukraine, who ALSO HAPPEN TO BE JEWISH. Is it not the same in the USA, to a degree?

USSR had an incredible number of dignitaries and celebrated members of elite, cultural and otherwise who were Jewish - and everyone knew it. Certainly didn't keep them from fame or money or power, did it?

I find it a curious double standard, myself, that although racism and tribalism are a common thing almost everywhere in the world- this is human race, after all, it's always anti semitism that pops out on top - and if you look at the stats of the rich and powerful, the Jewish are very well off, indeed.

So, discuss. Am I wrong?

Charles Frith said...

Israel is neutral my ass.

Afterthought said...

We are past Peak Jew.

Their international empire is crumbling, and peace, freedom and prosperity will increase for a time, until the next human catastrophe breaks out, likely over scarce resources.

The rank-and-file Jew can do much to soften the landing by speaking out against the psychopaths at the top of their hierarchy. No one should carry eternal enmity against a people (as in the doctrine of Amalek), we should only oppose Jews for what they do in the here-and-now.

We should be willing to stand with the national Jews in Israel while at the same time denude the international Jews of their techno-tyrannical tools.

Yonatan said...

Just early thoughts:

The statement that Israel is neutral is slightly deceptive. It favors the winner, who is as yet unknown. They hope the winner can be used to further Israel's interests.

Netanyahu is described as a liar even by our own craven politicians. I suspect Putin is fully aware of the meaning of Israel's 'neutrality' given this.

Kolomoisky is thought to have been heavily involved in the early stages of regime change, in particular, the Odessa tragedy. He has even offered bounties of $10,000 for 'moskals'. One acid test would be, should Russia bring charges against Kolomoisky, after he has taken refuge in Israel - Would Israel extradite him? I suspect 'not a hope in hell' is the answer, given the nature of the Halakhah.

Israel, I'm sure, is also 'neutral' about the battle for regime change in Syria, which, for one group, was an attempt to deny Russia its naval base in the Mediterranean. For another group, it was an attempt to break the land link of support for Hezbollah. This latter change would give Israel greater freedom to attack or even take over part of Lebanon.

Similarly, the attempt at regime change in Ukraine, for one group, was an attempt to deny Russia its naval base in the Black Sea. This would deprive Russia of its major warm water port. That would complicate support for its other port at Tartus, giving greater freedom for the regime changers in Syria.

In summary, I see Syria and Ukraine as interlinked actions attempting to start the process of destroying Russia once and for all, whilst setting up conditions for Israel's advantage. Israel could hardly be anything other than publicly 'neutral' in all of this.

Anonymous said...


I think Putin knows very well what impact the Jews had on modern Russian history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

"Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85 %"

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The Wend

Anonymous said...

This article clarifies a lot about the S-300s. And it’s very hard to actually come across facts these days.

What it does show is a balancing act on the part of Putin, much like Kissinger's balancing act during the Iran-Iraq war: Both of you fight, both of you lose.

What is strange is that you (Putin/Russians) help them build nuclear plants that can later be, potentially, far more deadly than the S-300s to Israel.

The article shows something that should be obvious to all by now. In Russia Orthodox Christian come first, Jews come second, Islam third, then Catholics, Atheist next...
Iran is Shi'ite Muslim, Armenians come next, then Sunnis, then Jews/Christians, then the Wahhabi, then opposing Shi'ite clergy…
In the USA, atheist come first, then Jews, then Christians, then Islam, last I guess are those poor Sikhs who are assumed to be Muslim.

Putin is first and foremost for Russia, Nasrallah is first and foremost for his Shias of Lebanon, etc etc etc

Obama is blamed as being for the 1%ers. After everything is put in context, what’s so wrong with that?

Anonymous said...

This article clarifies a lot about the S-300s. And it’s very hard to actually come across facts these days.

What it does show is a balancing act on the part of Putin, much like Kissinger's balancing act during the Iran-Iraq war: Both of you fight, both of you lose.

What is strange is that you (Putin/Russians) help them build nuclear plants that can later be, potentially, far more deadly than the S-300s to Israel.

The article shows something that should be obvious to all by now. In Russia Orthodox Christian come first, Jews come second, Islam third, then Catholics, Atheist next...
Iran is Shi'ite Muslim, Armenians come next, then Sunnis, then Jews/Christians, then the Wahhabi, then opposing Shi'ite clergy…
In the USA, atheist come first, then Jews, then Christians, then Islam, last I guess are those poor Sikhs who are assumed to be Muslim.

Putin is first and foremost for Russia, Nasrallah is first and foremost for his Shias of Lebanon, etc etc etc

Obama is blamed as being for the 1%ers. After everything is put in context, what’s so wrong with that?

forgot to sign off

mindfriedo

Anonymous said...

@Saker

Something else, since you don't seem to be interested at all.

Are there any good English language news websites or blogs on Iraq that you or any of the commentators can point me to? Desperate for news.

mindfriedo

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@mindfriedo:Something else, since you don't seem to be interested at all.

That is so uncalled for! I wish you had a hidden camera to observe what I did in the last 48 hours. If you had you would have understood that I only had 24 hours in one day when I would need at least 48.

And no, I cannot recommend a good source on Iraq. Sorry!

The Saker

Anonymous said...

@Saker

My apologies for behaving like a teenager. Will look for sources.

Twice there has been an attack on Samarra, and twice repulsed. The Shia line is being stretched thin.


mindfriedo

Nora said...

Saker,

Maybe the thing to do is let the damned trolls HAVE this thread!

Must be the keyword Shamir -- can't you just see them madly typing away. The IDF Keyboard Kommandos!

Got partway in and revulsion just overtook me -- I apologise to any decent people who commented here but I refuse to wade in any deeper. Blech!

Anonymous said...

@"Yup, you heard me right; the only difference between you and the Right Sector elements is that they are Ukrainian nationalists and you are a Russian nationalist."

There is nothing amiss with nationalism. It is an authentic expression of people's participation in community and self government. Those who condemn national self determination are representative's of a cosmopolitan self chosen elite who advocate the master slave system of neo-liberalism. National sovereignty based on self determination of a people stands against the cosmopolitan predators of the Anglo Zionist Empire.

Anonymous said...

Finally managed to get my credit card to work. Have donated a small amount, will try to keep it recurring.

Still not sure if it went through. Will call my bank in the morning to check.

Keep up the good work

Mindfriedo

Anonymous said...

You frequently accuse Croats of being pro-west, and claim Serbs are good guys.

Well, perhaps you don't know, but Slobodan Milosevic was an American player when the war started in Yugoslavia. He was Kissinger's business partner, and US foreign minister James Baker after meeteng Milosevic in Belgrade gave him the push for all out attack on Croatia in august 1991. Americans imposed arm-embargo in Yugoslavia, and that only helped Serbs who had all Yugoslav army weapons.

Latter Americans did what they usually do with their usefull idiots (like Sadam Husein) - they turned against usefull idiot who had done dirty job for them.

The rest is history.

It is true that today Croatia is occupied by US, their puppets run the state, but very simmilar situation is in Serbia. As far as the people of Croatia is concerned, the situation is not as it might seem from the outside. Lot of people have sympathy for the Russians and also for Vladimir Putin. Belive it or not, great number of people understands what is going on in the world and understands that country is literally occupied. Yes, there is also many mainstream media brainwashed people like everywhere in the world, but it is absolutelly incorrect to say that Croats are dominantly anti-Russians like Estonias, Letonians, Poles...

VINEYARDSAKER: said...

@mindfriedo:Twice there has been an attack on Samarra, and twice repulsed. The Shia line is being stretched thin.

My friend, believe me, I share your frustration. I wish I have more time and more hours in a day. Tell you what: can YOU write up a summary of what is going on in Iraq? If yes, I will post it here. Deal?

Also, and just to reassure you: I am absolutely sure that should things get really bad, both Iran and Hezollah will send in forces to protect the Shia. Iran probably covertly, Hezbollah probably overtly. The problem seems to be that the government forces are run by incompetent officers, this does not mean that the Shia in Iraq don't have the right guys - because they definitely do. Al Sadr is still in Iran, iirc, but even from there he can make a few calls and before we know it you are going to have a lot of very well trained and very well equipped folks suddenly showing up from out of the blue.

Hang in there - there is no way the al-Qaeda crazies can stand up to the Shia!

So think about my offer of writing a summary overview of what has happened and upon my return (Sat) I will post it.

Kind regards,

The Saker

Anonymous said...

I am listing some background sources on the role of Zionist collaboration with Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in establishing Zionist ascendency over Jewry and the criminal rise of the State of Israel. The Zionists dominate the voice of world Jewry in their psychopathic quest for world domination. The Jewish community is held hostage by Zionism and uses the 'anti-Semitic' slur to attempt to silence critics, historians, and even Saker by some in this thread.

1. 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis by Lenni Brenner

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1569802351/counterpunchmaga

2. Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil-Hannah Arendt

http://www.amazon.com/Eichmann-Jerusalem-Banality-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143039881

3. The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine

http://www.amazon.com/The-Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691127603

4. The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed

http://www.controversyofzion.info/

5. The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements by Kevin MacDonald

http://www.amazon.com/The-Culture-Critique-Evolutionary-Twentieth-Century/dp/0759672229

6. 200 Years Together by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/200_Years_Together

7. The Iron Wall: Zionist Revisionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir by Lenni Brenner

http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/ironwall/01-youth.htm

Anonymous said...


I wrote this before I noticed the Saker is back. Keep that in mind.

This thread has gotten out of hand. The Saker is probably on vacation and cannot intervene. We have a saying: when the cat is not at home, the rats dance on the table.

I see whole nations named and condemned. I urge people to see the difference between a people and the elite/elites that control it. In the case of the UK, consider that Empire starts at home. The people must be domesticated before the Empire can be built. Same with every other Empire. There is a big difference between Jews and their elites. Same with Americans and their elites. Europeans still rebel as best they can against Brusselles Empire-building, but not successfully. Barroso/Burroso once said in public that the EU was an "Impire", as he called it. Yes, there are lots of imps in Brusselles.

Every nation has a domestic elite. These different elites sometimes have short-term or long-term alliances. That is what we see in the Western world today, but also in other countries.

Blaming the Jews serve two purposes:

1. The other elites are left in peace. We don't even notice them.
2. A little controlled anti-semitism encourages emigration to Israel.

In other words, extreme nationalists are being had.

I thank Israel Shamir for his valuable contribution.

Anonymous said...

Saker

Excellent detailing and appraisal of Zionist history up to 1950 in "Controversy Of Zion, by Douglas Reed. Google it, available as a PDF.

Zionists have only one goal, destruction of anyone not a zionist.

Paul said...

Wow, the trolls are our hot and heavy on this one... lol

So who benefits from crashing Ukraine? What are the assets which are wanted?

1. Limiting Russia's ability to project force in the Med. by taking away the port in Crimea... that obviously failed so enough on that.

2. Monsanto, Dupont, General Foods, etc. (aka Rockefeller interests) are strugling to get their GMO poison into the EU. Getting a hold of some of Europe's best arable land in western Ukr. Then they can grow what they want and have a much better chance at flooding the market in the EU with crap.

3. Gas!!! (both Rothechilde and Rockefeller interests involved) Current price for nat. gas for Ukr. from Gazprom is around 13.74 1000/cf. previously at a discount price of 7.6. Gas projects in Israel's Leviathan field currently are at a break even of 14.2 (source Goldman) after conversion to LNG in Cyprus and shipped to EU. Now you have to add in the raising cost of asset protecting in the Med. which will add to this price. Currently Israel is purchasing hardware in the cost of billions for protecting those assets.

Since things are not going well in Ukr. for killing the gas flow, Woodside(Aus.) has pulled out for a 30% stake in Leviathan.

Also, you can not discount the desire of shale gas by several players in Ukr. (Chevron and Royal Dutch Shell) which need the market price for gas to rise above 15(est.) to break even.

Back to Leviathan. There is no other viable market for Israel's gas outside of the EU. Yes they can get a better price in Japan but there are competing interests that do not make it feasable currently. Just won't be able to compete with Aus., US, and Russia.

So, does Israel have an interest in the destablisation of Ukr.? to the tune of billions already expended and in billions of furture profits.

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so you might ask then why are some in Israel snuggling up to Russia? simply a fallback option and access to inside info. They always have a hand in both sides for whatever opportunity arrises.

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Saker, hope you had a nice break.

Anonymous said...

You have a deal.

mindfriedo

Anonymous said...

Zionists are everywhere and that's the problem. They pull the strings of all leaders, let them do their wars for them, then let them fight each other while watching and smiling. The world is doomed.

Lord Tyrion said...

What a complex mess the Jews are embroiled in...
and Israel Shamir, you are too cynical for my good taste.

Lord Tyrion said...

What a complex mess the Jews are embroiled in...
and Israel Shamir, you are too cynical for my good taste.
Jews only siding with the powerful, phewt, what a silly and crude generalisation.

WizOz said...

@The Russians re-vitalised the World War Two narrative, fully identifying the Kiev regime with the Bandera gangs and the Nazi enemy. Still, this rhetoric is not taken seriously by Jews who refuse to feel threatened by cuddly Kolomoysky. “These Nazis are not against Jews, they are against Russians, so it is not a Jewish problem”, they say.

If one wants to understand why the Jews can so serenely deny that the "Banderists" were antisemitic and deride the Russians assertions, please, please read (again) the entry of Wikipedia (@Stepan Bandera):

"Ukrainian nationalism did not include antisemitism as a core aspect of its program and saw Russians as well as Poles as the chief enemy with Jews playing a secondary role... Two Halicz / Halych Karaites (Karaite Jews), Anna-Amelia Leonowicz (1925-1949) and her mother, Helena (Ruhama) Leonowicz (1890-1967), paradoxically, became members of the radical organisation of Ukrainian nationalists, Orhanyzatsiia Ukraїns’kykh Natsionalistiv (OUN)...
The predominance of the Soviet central government, rather than the Jewish minority, as the principal perceived enemy of Ukrainian nationalists was highlighted at the OUN-B's Conference in Krakow in 1941 when it declared that "The Jews in the USSR constitute the most faithful support of the ruling Bolshevik regime, and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in Ukraine. The Muscovite-Bolshevik government exploits the anti-Jewish sentiments of the Ukrainian masses to divert their attention from the true cause of their misfortune and to channel them in a time of frustration into pogroms on Jews. The OUN combats the Jews as the prop of the Muscovite-Bolshevik regime and simultaneously it renders the masses conscious of the fact that the principal foe is Moscow." ... In 1941-1942 while Bandera was cooperating with the Germans, OUN members did take part in anti-Jewish actions. (But) in 1942 German intelligence concluded that Ukrainian nationalists were indifferent to the plight of the Jews and were willing to either kill them or help them, depending on what better served their cause. Several Jews took part in Bandera's underground movement, including one of Bandera's close associates Richard Yary who was also married to a Jewish woman. Another notable Jewish UPA member was Leyba-Itzik "Valeriy" Dombrovsky. According to a report to the Chief of the Security Police in Berlin dated March 30, 1942, "...it has been clearly established that the Bandera movement provided forged passports not only for its own members, but also for Jews.". The false papers were most likely supplied to Jewish doctors or skilled workers who could be useful for the movement.
When Bandera was in conflict with the Germans, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army under his authority sheltered many Jews. and included Jewish fighters and medical personnel. In the official organ of the OUN-B's leadership, instructions to OUN groups urged those groups to "liquidate the manifestations of harmful foreign influence, particularly the German racist concepts and practices."

And let's not forget that:
"Members of Bandera's Ukrainian nationalist movement thought that they had found a new powerful ally in Nazi Germany to aid them in their struggle against the Soviet Union. Instead, the German leadership arrested the newly formed government and sent them to concentration camps in Germany. Bandera was arrested and imprisoned by the Nazis until September 1944".

Ron Chapman said...

G'day,

Part I
Israel Shamir says:
‘the hoax has made the front pages, while its debunking was published on the back pages.’ Since Jews control the mass media the publication of this hoax and Obama and Kerry’s endorsement of it on front pages and placement of the debunking on the back pages, signifies the real Judaic position on the issue. The reason for that is fairly obvious. This disinformation dissemination and obfuscation of the truth is designed to conceal the fact that the Kiev COUP, like the Bolshevik COUP against the Russian people in 1917, is a Judaic construction. Both anti-Russian coups have been presented to the world as “revolutions” but in reality they were Jewish coups, By their fruits you shall know them. Both coups were achieved with violence and both were followed by massacres of Russians and Russian sympathisers. For some general background see: JEWS AND COMMUNISM - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/JEWS-AND-COMMUNISM.shtml

The fact that Jews just “happen” to emerge as the leaders of the new Junta government and get appointed to governorships is totally consistent with what happened in 1917 when Jews fooled many Russian Christians into supporting them or at least not opposing them whereupon, according to Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, they proceeded to torture and kill some 66 million Russian Christians before the Georgian Jew, Stalin was removed, reputedly by other Jews. Stalin and the Jew Kaganovich also murdered at least seven million Ukrainian Christians, mostly by starvation during the Holodomor. In contrast, largely due to Allied bombing causing shortages of food and medicines etc, some 271,304 Jews died from disease, malnutrition and starvation in German internment work camps during WWII. That statistic pales in comparison to the Jews' achievements in Russia does it not?

The problem with human history in our era, including the history of this Kiev Coup, is that Jews control the narrative, not only because they control (and did throughout the 20th century) all relevant “Western" governments and news media, but also they control general education, entertainment, academia, science funding and publishing, so that very little truth percolates through to the general public. IF the truth was widely and clearly understood, Putin would not have to pretend that Jews are his best friends because Russians would KNOW what the Bolshevik Jews did to their ancestors. Ditto for Ukrainians. An example: I have an allopathic doctor friend whose parents migrated from Kiev to Australia in the 1950s and who returns to visit relatives from time to time. She is rabidly anti-Russian and has no understanding that the Holodomor and its aftermath were Jewish pogroms of Ukrainian Christians, NOT the work of Russian Christians. That misunderstanding fuels her virulently anti-Putin attitude and she is not open to discussion on the subject.

For some background on the Bolshevks Jews see eg the related articles listed in: Do Americans Face a Red Terror? -http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Do-Americans-Face-a-Red-Terror.shtml

Blessings
Ron

Ron Chapman said...

G'day,
Part II
In considering these matters one needs to remember that Jews are Talmudists, that is their legal and ideological communal basis. Talmudists are culturally conditioned (socially engineered) to be ethno-centric supremacists which fuels their exceptionalist mentality and creates a secretive symbiosis between them. In that sense they are a Fifth Column in every community they inhabit because although they are “IN” their chosen nation of residence, they are not “OF” it. Their allegiance is to their “tribe” and not to the country in which they live. If this were not so, there would be no Jewish entity as such because being a Jew is NOT genetic or religious, rather it is an extremely ethno-centric, nepotistic, legalistic cultural ideology. Anyone who claims to be a Jew is laying claim to that ideological relationship and at least tacitly supporting the activities of the group. And the rewards for that are obviously substantial. Apart from the political, legal, cultural and vocational advantages evidenced by the obviously excessive occupation of powerful and lucrative positions in society, Jews today continue to receive massive amounts of tribute from Germany and Austria, and extraordinary amounts of largesse from the US and many other countries. Some of the advantages include hidden imposts. For instance USans pay a 3% KOSHER TAX on many grocery items. See eg: The "U" Tax! - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-U-Tax.shtml
See also: Kosher asphyxiation - http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Kosher-asphyxiation.shtml

For some indication of Jewish dominance in global social communications infrastructure see eg: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Jewish-hand-behind-Internet-Google-Facebook-Wikipedia-Yahoo-MySpace-eBay.shtml

And: Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Ethics: Gaming the System - http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Ultra-Orthodox-Jewish-Ethics-Gaming-the-System.shtml

Blessings,
Ron

Ron Chapman said...

G'day,
Part III
The Judaic ethos is essentially fear ridden which fuels their approach to non-Jews. Their motto is ‘By deception you shall do war”. What non-Jews fail to grasp is that the war is perpetual, & against all non members of Judaism. Sooo lying & dissimulation is standard practice when dealing with non-Jews. See the Kol Nidrei. Jews are good at this and special gatekeepers like Shamir are very good at it. The impression given is that Jews hold a variety of views and allegiances but in truth they do not. The Kiev Coup was contrived by Jews who now control Ukraine & their thugs are now torturing & killing Christian opponents. The pretence that Jews are not involved & are “neutral” is Judaic deception.
The US government is controlled by Jews. Victoria Nuland, a Jew, aaid the US government spent five BILLION USD organising a& funding the KIEV COUP. The result is that Jews are now in control of Ukraine and are waging war on Russians there. Jewish oligarch, Igor Kolomoysky, was appointed governor of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast & is said to have organised the holocaust of 300 civilians in Odessa offering to pay 5,000 USD for EACH cadaver his thugs produced. Shamir doesn't mention that but rather says Ukranian Jews think Kolomoysky is "cuddly". That is serious misdirection.

The Mayor & district governor of Kharkov are Jews and they refused to help president Yanukovich. Two other Jewish oligarchs are also in the mix.

Israel Shamir has no difficulty obfuscating these facts and pretending that the COUP is really something other than what it is. He says Kolomoysky is “cuddly” & Jews think the “Nazis” are ‘not against Jews but against Russians, so it is not a Jewish problem’. That is of course correct but Shamir presents it as if it’s just a matter of opinion. It isn’t. It is a fact. Why? Because Jews controlling the US and Jewish oligarchs in Ukraine are paying the “Nazi” thugs to do the killing; ie the Jews control them. The mechanism is the same as used by the US when using allegedly religious Muslims to torture and murder Syrians et al. The truth is that the perpetrators are just hired thugs in ALL these cases.

Shamir purports to seriously discuss the Aliya Battalion and its possible assistance to Russian Christians against the Jew controlled Kiev Junta and suggests Stalin “pulled” Jews to his side and Putin is trying to do the same. That is hasbara nonsense because US Jews & global Jewry CREATED the Bolshevik Jewish Coup in Russia in 1917! To suggest that Putin who has spent years extricating Russia from the clutches of Wall Street & global Jewry could repeat that “trick” has to be deliberate misdirection.

Shamir says; ‘The American Jewish community surely carries some clout. This is hasbara talk. Does any serious observer of the US think US Jewry merely carries some clout? Or that US Jews who disagree with Nuland et al, have any effect on outcomes?

The idea that Israel could switch allegiance from the US to Russia is absurd. Jews ARE the US for all political purposes just as Bolsheviks WERE the Soviet Union under Lenin & Stalin. The suggestion that Jews could double cross themselves is rabbinical nonsense. The whole purpose of the Jews’ technique of “divide & conquer” is to confuse non-Jews & to get them to disagree & fight each other instead of Jewry. Shamir & Noam Chomsky et al are a subtle part of Jewry's charade. The acid test of the sincerity of any Jew is does s/he denounce the Holocaust as a vicious Blood Libel against Germans.

IF Jews feared the Junta global Jewmedia would be screaming about it. They aren’t.
Israel'snon vote on the UN GA Crimea resolution is window dressing. IF the Jewry was against it the global Jewmedia would be screaming opposition to it. They aren’t.

Shamir says ‘Jews came to the Ukraine a thousand years ago, perhaps from Khazaria’. No kidding Sherlock? Ancient Khazaria INCLUDED southern Ukraine. Rabbinical discourse is only plausible if you don’t think too deeply about it.

Blessings,
Ron

WizOz said...

@Ron,

G'day mate. Good on you. Clear vision.

Ivan Lukic said...

There was never much Jews in Serbia so antisemitism was never present here in any obvious or hidden form. But after reading the text my impression was that Jews in general are potentially very dangerous subversive group for any society where they are present. They are well educated, workaholic and organized. If that is not potentially destructive compound I do not know what it is. It is not necessary for them to be a big group to destabilize a domestic society. A small number of rich Jews with hidden agenda is probably just enough. No doubt that Jews should have their independent country, but I am not sure that it should be at the expense of Palestinian Arabs.

Ron said...

G'day WizOz,

Thank you.
We need clear vision Down Under because the Judaics have had Australians by the throat since 1975 when KERR (a traitor to all Australians because he served QEII, a Foreign Head of State) effectuated the bloodless CIA coup by "sacking" the Whitlam government to earn his CIA agent's fees.

I see the Oz government now says East Jerusalem is NOT occupied. Someone should tell the Israelis and the Palestinians.They need to know that.

Tony Abbott is also trying to "do" a Howard - gratuitously offering Oz troops for the reconquest and occupation of Iraq. The Judaics controlling the US will be pleased...
Blessings,
Ron

Ron Chapman said...

G'day WizOz

Thank you.

We need clear vision Down Under as the Judaics have had Australians by the throat ever since 1975 when KERR (a traitor to all Australians because, like all Oz GGs, he served QEII, a Foreign Head of State)effectuated the bloodless CIA coup against the Whitlam government thus earning his fees as a CIA agent.

I see that the Oz government now says that East Jerusalem is NOT occupied. Someone should tell the Israelis and Palestinians. They need to know that.

Tony Abbott is also trying to "do" a John Howard, offering Oz troops for the reconquest and occupation of Iraq. The Judaics will be pleased...

Blessings,
Ron
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