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Monday, June 9, 2014

Subtitled Interview with Igor Strelkov (Girkin) June 7th

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mariupol - world needs best source of minute by minute account. Will Russia take the op to eliminate azovand donbass bns or did Russia screw up by not preparing for this opportunity? In other words, if Porosh pulls the ato away in a few days, will there be an intact battle tested ukr force that escapes the clutches of what could havebeenRussian spetznats? i still think Putin doesn't want any ato troops to be pulled back that he intends to surround and destroy.

Did the ng troops leaveKrasni Liman or are they surrounded?

istina said...

The fascists are repeating Operation Storm of 1995. Tens of thousands have already been displaced and hundreds were killed by the fascists.
Video: Operation Storm 1995

Standing idly by then has not saved Serbia from being bombed by NATO later. Even though Serbia/Yugoslavia was an imporant Western ally during WW1, WW2 and the Cold War. It does not matter how a country behaves when the US empire decides to destroy it. The Russian people should keep that in mind.

By the way, ukrainian fascists and the ustashe were allies in the CIA-funded "Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations". Nazi war criminals were always part of the "Western community of values". The only thing that has changed is that NATO is supporting them openly.

"Hitler’s Shadow: Nazi War Criminals, U.S. Intelligence, and the Cold War" (page 78ff.)

Anonymous said...

A Russian peace-keeping force will be attacked by NATO bombers.

A dogfight between NATO bombers and Russian planes and missiles will result in the commitment of NATO troops.

The humanitarian crisis is inevitable.

Anonymous said...

I do not see the Russian ambassador to the UN tabling reports on the crimes and atrocities committed by the Kiev junta against the people in Eastern Ukraine and that Russia reserves the right to prevent these crimes nor did Lavrov gave recent press conferences on the same. Churkin can try the trick of imposing a no-fly zone but this will be vetoed but at least it will expose the hypocrisy of the great satan and his gang.

Even reports in RT.com and the Voice of Russia have been toned down with the exception of John Robles and there is not even a hint of Russian intervention. This is very disturbing as it encourages the continuing slaughter. Perhaps, Putin's knee has turned jelly or he is under great pressure from his oligarchs whose fortunes are being threatened by sanctions and military conflict. But Putin can sanction Poroshenko's chocolate business in Russia !!

Russia has to face, alone, the great satan and his gang and since the Russo-Sino get-together is still too loose to handle major military conflicts, Putin maybe postponing the conflict to a future date with US/NATO missiles at the Ukrainian border and consequent nuclear war with Russia being the loser.

The poor peope of Eastern Ukraine who are Russians are now the sacrificial lamb. May some divine force save them.

Anonymous said...

http://sovietoutpost.revdisk.org/?p=152

Are there cut out sites with fake or
augmented Strelkov narrative?

The interviews on the above blog
paint Strelkov as a near anti Kremlin
radical...who is part dreamer and drama
queen
Drunk Ukie to Cossak won't dig ditches
The above site gave me pause
Noticed this kind of blog flypaper since
Libya and Syria
If the above is Strelkov and the reality
In the east....if so..they are screwed

Anonymous said...

meanwhile-

when did Finland become part of NATO?

'Sign of aggression': Ten NATO countries start war games in

U.S. army paratroopers attend opening ceremony of NATO military exercise "Saber Strike" in Adazi

A major military exercise kicked off in Latvia, with 10 NATO member countries participating. The war games involve 4,700 troops and 800 military vehicles. Russia sees NATO's military build-up as a sign of aggression.

The Saber Strike ground forces exercise is being conducted for the fourth time this year and coincides with Baltic Host 2014 and Baltops 2014 naval drills.

Troops from the US, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Norway and the UK are taking part.

The two-week exercise is hosted by the three Baltic States, although some parts will be conducted in Germany.



For Latvia, where the opening ceremony was held, it's the biggest NATO military drill since its accession to the alliance in 2004, the country's defense ministry said Monday in a statement. The ceremony was crowned with a US strategic bomber B-52 flyover.

The exercise comes amid high tension between NATO and Russia over the Ukrainian political crisis. The alliance ramped up its presence in Russia's neighborhood, claiming that it is a response toward Moscow's aggressive stance.

Britain's army soldiers march during opening ceremony of NATO military exercise "Saber Strike" in Adazi June 9, 2014. (Reuters/Ints Kalnins)

Britain's army soldiers march during opening ceremony of NATO military exercise "Saber Strike" in Adazi June 9, 2014. (Reuters/Ints Kalnins)

Russia says NATO's actions are provocative and is taking measures to balance the shift in military power.

“We can't take this military buildup by the alliance next to Russia's borders as anything but a demonstration of hostile intention. The deployment of extra NATO troops in Central and Eastern Europe, even on a rotational basis” is a violation of Russia's agreements with the alliance, Deputy Foreign Minister Vladimir Titov said Monday.

“Of course we won't stand idly and watch the militarization of the countries in our neighborhood and will take all necessary political and military measures to ensure our security,” the diplomat told Interfax.

Anonymous said...

Faithless - Mass Destruction

Anonymous said...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/09/ukraine-president-petro-poroshenko-eu-mediated-talks-russia

RF did this shit back words. Should have take the initiative cut the gas first, to stop the fight. Not other way around.

Incompetent with a capital I.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1TsCud9QhU

kind regards.

Biswajit said...

Yes it's a pity that Russia is not helping. Yes what I remember that Stalin has to wait so that Russia do not have attacks on two fronts. I guess something must be going through the higher echelon in Russia and especially The president Of Russia(VVP).Indeed, a slight mistake can make or break the country for years to come. Rebuilding a country takes years and he tried to build a country from scratch for last 16 years. Will he have to do that again? He does not want to be registered on the wrong side in the annals of history. He witnessed the suffering of Russian citizens in his own eyes and tried to improve as much as he could and still trying. In WW2 Russia was in direct threat to annihilation. Now a direct threat will have in 10 year or at least five after missile defense/Offence. What will he do? I am sure he must be scratching head. Indeed stakes are too high. But he has broader perspective in his mind. he wants to decrease the role of dollar. But I am angry why soviet union let that happen? God forbid, No one will be in that position what he is, in foreseeable future. I once wrote it is the leaders (politically and/or religious)that can influence followers to a large scale. Remember "JIHAD"? Really walking on a thin sword to say the least. A head of state who really cares for citizens in contrast to cannon fodder like some puppet head of state, yes it is a very difficult question. But a decision must be made. At what Cost? Only time will tell.....

Anonymous said...

Thanks..give us more please. Gratitude for all those translations, hesitant or not! Strelkov is correct, though, the escalation will come with supplies from NATO etc. because the shelling won't bring capitulation fast enough for the World
Bank. the key is not the military but the political Will melding with the right timing. Still this is excruciating to watch and so, so wrong. Save the Children.

Anonymous said...

Thanks..give us more please. Gratitude for all those translations, hesitant or not! Strelkov is correct, though, the escalation will come with supplies from NATO etc. because the shelling won't bring capitulation fast enough for the World
Bank. the key is not the military but the political Will melding with the right timing. Still this is excruciating to watch and so, so wrong. Save the Children.

Gayle said...

Well. From a June 8 statement of Strelkov's (translated here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s22khu ) :

Now we have almost too many recruits, but we have neither weapons, nor shoes, nor uniforms to equip them and to put them into action. The assistance that now comes from Russia WAS NEEDED A MONTH AGO. AT THAT TIME, IT COULD HAVE BROUGHT US SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS. As things stand now, this assistance is barely allowing us to stand our ground, but gives us no chance to turn the tide in our favour. We have nothing, everything is delayed by not just days, but weeks

So... it seems the locals *are* finally stepping up, but Russia is dragging its feet.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK_JE13ohqI
follow the women..

Anonymous said...

Ok. bear with me on this one please. Putin by nature is not a shoe thumper and he will exhaust all diplomatic possibilities and then he will act. It doesn't matter that they are lying to him--he well knows this. Also, I am informed that there are factors that are not available for public perusal which will be revealed in time. Putin's military response is no problem...the political is the deciding factor so watch it carefully.

Anonymous said...

Please dont panic. Situation is not desperate.This is just a game,Poroshenko will try to ease tensions down,he is also affraid of the radicals in goverment,Timoshenko is just waiting for his wrong step to take control.You heard Strelkov - they can not enter Slavyansk,just fire from the distance.If this escalate I dont see how the RS and NG can win.Russia plays much bigger game here,whole Europe is at stake,few hundred,thousand lives is nothing compared to the big aim.NATO will not commit anything,if it does it will be the end of NATO.

Anonymous said...

MI6 Guardian: 'New East Network' rolls out in place of actual 'journalism', featuring Carnegie, Interpreter Mag, Soros-funded projects. Unfortunately for the Western intelligence agencies sponsoring this project, by the end it will describe territories that have more in common with the best features of the 'Old East', i.e., Communist/Christian ideals, or, those agencies, and every living thing, will be reduced to nuclear dust.

Anonymous said...

Every day without war is the fading of the hegemon.

Fiscally, economically, morally,genetically and politically, intellectually bankrupt country has only a megalarge military left that it cannot afford to maintain -

You do not turn yourself inta nail when your opponents only weapon is a hammer.

Anonymous said...

There's a big drive to join HATO here in Finland.

People are drinking the kool-aid.

Best wishes

Anonymous in Finland

olivegreen said...

@Anonymous 09 June, 2014 14:13
http://sovietoutpost.revdisk.org/?p=152

Those comments belong to Strelkov, yes. But you need to take into account Strelkov's writing style. He is rather prone to "All is lost, we are going to die!" rhetoric. Usually things turn out not to be half as bad. Otherwise he and his people would have been defeated several times over. These last comments seem to be meant to prod someone into doing something. Same as his famous video address that he refers to.

Strelkov has always been anti-Kremlin and radical in his views. He is a monarchist and a kind of "pro-Empire" Russian nationalist. There is a lot of writing material by him on the internet for the past 15 years at least. He softened towards Putin slightly because of Crimea, but that seems now gone after Putin's inaction so far in the Donbass. In fact, most of the Russian volunteers now in the Donbass are not ardent Putin supporters. There are quite a few Russian nationalists, for example, who do not like Putin because they consider that his government policies are disadvantageous to ethnic Russians and that too many preferences are given to minorities such as those from the Caucasus.

olivegreen said...

Saker, what do you think of Strelkov's comments that 1-1.5 months ago the problem could have been solved easily from the military standpoint, and now Russia would have to wage a full-scale war because the Ukrainian army is stronger and better organised?

Anonymous said...

olivewgree said "Saker, what do you think of Strelkov's comments that 1-1.5 months ago the problem could have been solved easily from the military standpoint, and now Russia would have to wage a full-scale war because the Ukrainian army is stronger and better organised?"
tgis is exactly what paul craif roberts had said 2 months ago for russia to intervene within 2 weeks rather than weait for useless diplomacy while ukie and nato prepare for war.
but russia like loser she is, has opted for talk and talk and talk all rubbish talk.l

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your update on Strelkov

Maybe Moscow should relieve Strelkov and put someone
in that Putin and Lavrov can stand by
Clearly the east is a hot front and will only see further
population flight
Putin should at least enable the east fighters to
knock down the Uke jets and helicopters
this airforce is already on life support with its worn
out equipment
It would be a big hit if the Ukraine airbases could be
attacked and force kiev to keep pilots and maint on bases
So they have no life....

Looks like NATO has another war where they get to hit
you from safe distance
NVA and VC made sure that was not the case in Nam
and the result was..They ran the US off and won

Feng Chsang said...

It's a pity one can not download this clip to distribute it to the (Dutch)media, or other important channels that in no way are to convinced to watch <a href="http://rutube.ru/video/b3f6c1062539b5c044743c591d17a980/?ref=logo/>this interview with Strelkov</a> on the ultra slow website of RuTube. We could help, but then the producer of this clip on RUTUBE should not assume that his name - in the middle of Strelkov's face - and rights are more important than a smooth and massively distribution of the truth. Grrrr... how bad capitalist's attitudes inspires stupid people.

Anonymous said...

At lest one good thing with waiting, All Nazi Guard are gathered together if RF chose to act.

If RF chose not act, then RF will lose more men, and fight a unconventional war with those guards in not too distant future, and it will not be on NOVOROSSIA land either.

know the truth said...

When I heard that Brussels had twisted the arm of the Bulgarian government to suspend work on the south stream pipeline my immediate reaction was that don't the fools in Brussels know they were cutting off their noses to please America ? This has been a general source of bewilderment for me since the whole Ukraine crisis began, how the so called "leaders" of the EU have consistently time and again acted against their own interests to follow the American line. And these are supposedly intelligent people with whole armies of advisers. But then it occurred to me, are they really indeed acting against their own interests ? I think not if you consider the fact that their interests have absolutely nothing in common with the interests of their general population. In short the EU "leaders" do not represent their own citizens. The entire "west" has been hijacked by a cabal of like minded individuals in positions of power who only represent the interests of the 1%. In short these people are traitors to their own countries.

Anonymous said...

Putin has spent considerable time and effort building up the power and status of Russia over the past decade.I´m afraid putting all that to risk is maybe not worth it for intervening militarily in East Ukraine.

I agree with Biswajit

Feng Chsang said...

Anonymous know the truth said..[09 June, 2014 17:22]
The question is how to get rid of the heads of the snake, instead of the it's tail, c.q. the army?

Anonymous said...

Every day without war is the fading of the hegemon.

Anonymous 09 June, 2014 15:48

Could not be said better.

Also, what would Putin want Strelkov to say? Ask youself that question. It seems to me that if Putin had written a script for Strelkov, it would have been what he actually said.

Always think about what Putin would want someone to say. I am definitely not saying that Strelkov is not telling the truth. Without question he is telling the truth. But it is the truth Putin wishes him to say.

The hegemon desperately needs war. That is true also.

Anonymous said...

"Putin has spent considerable time and effort building up the power and status of Russia over the past decade.I´m afraid putting all that to risk is maybe not worth it for intervening militarily in East Ukraine."

That is what really on you mind, isn't it? Then wait for 1 or two years for National Guard to pay visit at Moscow with sniper rifle. That will bring a lot prestige to RF, and its people.

Feng Chsang said...

It's a pity one can not download this clip to distribute it to the (Dutch)media, or other important channels that in no way are to convinced to watch this interview with Strelkov on the ultra slow website of RuTube. We could help, but then the producer of this clip on RuTube shouldn't assume that his name - in the middle of Strelkov's face - and rights are more important than an easy and massively distribution of this site of the narrative. Grrrr... how bad capitalist's behavior inspires stupid people.

Gayle said...

Lugansk forces capture 3 Ukrainian tanks

Yessss.

Anonymous said...

You're the CIA Station Chief in Kiev. What do you want?

1) Continued killing of civilians until Russia intervenes... opening the door to NATO bombing.

2) No "Western" news coverage of civilian killing or Ukrainian incompetence.

If 1) is impossible, then a "Separatist" victory... opening the door to NATO bombing (to help poor Ukraine).

Saker, am I wrong?

Anonymous said...

These are the people running the Ukraine. When I see right sector people marching they look like teenagers. Their handlers are grown men but with the mentality of teenagers and the top boss Poroshenko the leader of all the oligarchs (mob bosses) of Ukraine.

The following video which I lifted from a previous poster shows the state of Ukraine. The mob boss being saluted by one of his teenage followers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0497yPjO8uY

olivegreen said...

@Feng Chsang

For a different hosting of the interview, have a look here:

http://www.mondbasis.com/ukraine/20140607.html

Anonymous said...

Putin lays out his approach if you listen. I seem to remember him referring to a KGB officer in Afghanistan who counted his successes by the number of missiles he didn't launch. In other words:

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Now people often quote a chess / checkers analogue for Putin / Obama. I prefer the judo / golf analogue. Give his judo prowess, Putin will well be able to "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

And for some light relief, for The Saker and Juan. Here is a video showing the capabilities of a Uke mortar team. Some of the crew look familiar - possibly at Maidan?

Feng Chsang said...

@ Olivegreen, 09 June, 2014 20:30
Thanx!

Tradecraft said...

So Russia moves?

Send in the Cavalry, air, ground, the whole cast.

proactive or ultimatum?

Anonymous said...

So how would one get over to strelkos command to do some reporting or slavyansk from Europe via Russia as an amateur reporter.
Any contacts, suggestions ideas without having KIEV National Nazi guards waiting for an adventurous traveller?

Just curious if it is still possible

вот так said...

This video is a collage of several interviews with Strelkov done at different times, I believe.

Daruma Doll said...

Russia ain't halping?

Told you so guys!

Strelkov has never been Putin's man.

He is a Russian nationalist, a heir of the White Guard. He has had very tough words against the current Russian regime years before this whole mess started in Ukraine.

Same is true about Goubarev, he was a member of the Barkashov's Russian National Unity when he was young.

And then DPR threteaned to nationalize Akhmetovo's whealth.

How do you think Russian oligarchs were going to react ?

No one has dismissed the "Class solidarity" yet.

This is why they gonna use Ukrainian right wing militants to kill Russian right and left (the so-called Red-Browns) wing militants.

And of course scores of innocent civilians gonna unfortunatelly get killed as "collateral damage".

And then Ukrainian oligarchs gonna invite their Russian colleagues to drink Dom Pérignon.

There's no honor among thieves and business is business...

Daruma Doll said...

A song that says it all (in Russian):

(БГ) Нас с Тобою Наебали: http://youtu.be/En9_l8079ik

And a relevant clip from the movie Generation P:

Generation P Sneak Preview - Parliament: http://youtu.be/O6HNE_kJ1Gg

We all need to remember the prophecy of Saint Seraphim of Sarov about the future if Russia...

MJ said...

BOT TAK said...

This video is a collage of several interviews with Strelkov done at different times, I believe.


No. It's just different camera angles all in the same room. One he is standing to the right of the door, one he is showing us the map on the wall to the left of the door. The rest is sitting at the desk, some are close ups, some wider. Look at the wide shot at 8:35, you can see most of the room.

It's all in the same room, he's wearing the same black shirt under his coat and he has the exact same bump and wave in the front of his hair...

Just my two cents.

Meezer said...

Let me get this straight:

Strelkov said "Now we have almost too many recruits, but we have neither weapons, nor shoes, nor uniforms to equip them and to put them into action"

While I understand longing for more Russian aid, why doesn't Strelkov come up with a Plan B? You know, like the adage "God helps those that help themselves"

I guess Strelkov never heard of the Volodarsky salt mine that's right under his feet. There's over 1 million firearms such as SKS', AK47's, etc., just sitting there.

So what's Strelkov's excuse for not taking advantage of this huge weapons depot????

Meezer

Anonymous said...

Meezer, could it possible that he can not reach it because he is besieged?

know the truth said...

Feng Chsang said :

"The question is how to get rid of the heads of the snake, instead of the it's tail, c.q. the army?".

Perehaps Europe badly needs its own Arab spring" ?